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| + | == Early ramblings == | ||
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* We really need some icons, Im going to ask Tratos nicely if he can come up with some, ideally I would like icons for the right of each box as well as some for the main images where the city coms are at the moment! | * We really need some icons, Im going to ask Tratos nicely if he can come up with some, ideally I would like icons for the right of each box as well as some for the main images where the city coms are at the moment! | ||
* Also what do we want in each box? Im thinking that currently what we have is ok, but we need a framework from which to work away from! | * Also what do we want in each box? Im thinking that currently what we have is ok, but we need a framework from which to work away from! | ||
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You may want to ask Tratos for a better NC-Wiki logo. That was a 5 minute job I did, as I was getting fed up with it asking to replace it. | You may want to ask Tratos for a better NC-Wiki logo. That was a 5 minute job I did, as I was getting fed up with it asking to replace it. | ||
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--[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 09:28, 7 November 2006 (GMT) | --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 09:28, 7 November 2006 (GMT) | ||
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| + | Just seeing if this anonymous text is allowed - Bram | ||
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| + | -NVM i dont read things before posting :) - Pantho 06:00am 08/11/06 | ||
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| + | == News Box == | ||
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| + | Ok what I want to happen is for the news to be posted I think there should be a maximum of 5 news article in the box at anyone time, after that the news needs to be moved to the older news page. --[[User:Delphi|Delphi]] 13:53, 10 November 2006 (GMT) | ||
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| + | == Images == | ||
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| + | Ok, i uploaded a faction logo for each faction, but i dont now how to put them inside a post... i can only Embed a link to the image... Also i dunno if there copyrighted, so ill let you show me how to insert a image. Also... im gonna go drink some more and at least act as if his 21st was a good party... [[user:Pantho|Pantho]] 10 November 2006 | ||
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| + | == Editing == | ||
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| + | * Is there some reason users cannot change the main page? I was wanting to add a link to a set of Hunting Guides. | ||
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| + | --[[User:prpht9|prpht9]] 12 November 2006 | ||
| + | * Currently its because we dont want the front page being graffitied --[[User:Delphi|Delphi]] 23:19, 12 November 2006 (GMT) | ||
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| + | * Ok, can you add a [[Hunting Guides]] link under the [[Profession Guides]]? Thanks. | ||
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| + | --[[User:prpht9|prpht9]] 14 November 2006 | ||
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| + | * Done :) --[[User:Delphi|Delphi]] 17:38, 14 November 2006 (GMT) | ||
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| + | * First of all i love the wiki it just needs a better index for people to work with | ||
| + | * Can you add a link to Tradeskill guides, there are already a few tradeskill pages and in fansites this is a highly used area. | ||
| + | * Since we want this to be a useful reference posibly replacing old fansites maybe add some databaselike links and social based links. | ||
| + | **Database A place for people to link pages devoted to implants, weapons, armor, parts, junk. maybe a map secton as well. | ||
| + | **Social a place people can add advertizements for guilds, pages devoted to characters, pages devoted to RP, personal fansite links, Radios, ETC. Ive already run into a few Guild advertizements placed randomly around. | ||
| + | --[[User:Kbmg|KayBeeMG]] 19 March 2007 | ||
| + | * We decided that to allow individual adervertising would lead to more vandalism and the like on the wiki. If you wish to discuss this further join the discussion at here. | ||
| + | ** Ive added a new link to the new players for the tradeskill guides - we need to deal with the [[New_Hub|new players hub]] however as it now serves no purpose. | ||
| + | --[[User:Delphi|Delphi]] 07:05, 20 March 2007 (GMT) | ||
| + | * I fixed your "newhub" issue by making it into a category list that should cover any subject the main page misses. | ||
| + | --[[User:Kbmg|KayBeeMG]] 04 April 2007 | ||
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| + | == Navigation bar == | ||
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| + | If you edit the [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] page, you can change the Navigation layout. At the moment, IMHO it's too hard to find anything. I've added the all pages for the moment as an example. --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 16:47, 15 November 2006 (GMT) | ||
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| + | ==Sysop guide to the Main Page == | ||
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| + | * Here is a quick breakdown of how the main page works, and also where the transcribed pages are to be able to change the main page. | ||
| + | : '''Top Note''' | ||
| + | :: ''TBH im sure most people have noticed the "top note" section - its at the very top to the right of the Main page tag'' | ||
| + | :: Editing: edit [[Main Page/TopNote|this page]] - Note there is a maximum character limit | ||
| + | : '''Notice Bar''' | ||
| + | :: ''This is the bar between the logo and the top of the content boxes'' | ||
| + | :: Editing: edit [[Main Page/Notices|this page]] | ||
| + | : '''Featured Image''' | ||
| + | :: ''Top content box'' | ||
| + | :: Editing: edit [[Template:FM/20|this page]] - Note eventually when we have decided on enough images we can make this work automatically. | ||
| + | : '''News''' | ||
| + | ::''Content Box - and internal section'' | ||
| + | :: Editing: edit [[Neocron_Wiki:News|this page]] - Note news can link off this page - this is just transcluded onto the front page - watch the size of the section. | ||
| + | : '''THN/VoTR/Neocronicle News''' | ||
| + | ::''Content Box'' | ||
| + | :: Editing: There should be no editing required as this is running off of a series of RSS feeds from [[Main Page/UN|here]] and [[Main Page/THN News|here]] | ||
| + | : '''Patches''' | ||
| + | ::''Content Box - and internal page'' | ||
| + | :: Editing: This has been written directly to the front page - edit in the usual way | ||
| + | : '''Help, Policy, and Guidelines''' | ||
| + | ::''Content box - and large internal section'' | ||
| + | :: Editing: This has been written directly to the front page - edit in the usual way | ||
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| + | * N.B. If you come across a page which is transcluded onto the front page which isnt protected to sysops/admins (if the tab at the top says unprotect then its protected!) then please hit the protected button and leave me a message on my talk so I can sort it. {{:User:Delphi/Sig}} 22:43, 2 April 2008 (BST) | ||
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| + | == Red link Purge == | ||
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| + | I for one am going to make an effort to get rid of the Red links here on the main page, All the red can mislead people to think there is minimal content. Not saying we need to build all the articles but at least start them off and tag as Expansion targets. What do you think?--[[User:Logan Ford|Logan Ford]] 16:47, 7 April 2008 (BST) | ||
| + | * I think it's a great idea, I'd help out if I had the time. --[[User:Flib|Flib]] 17:27, 7 April 2008 (BST) | ||
| + | * Agreed fantastic idea - I was hoping the community would see the red links and it would give them a starting point, but..... {{:User:Delphi/Sig}} 23:26, 7 April 2008 (BST) | ||
| + | :* Additionally what do we think about removing the link to Category:Equipment, and changing it to an Equipment page? I dont really like to link to categories off the front page? {{:User:Delphi/Sig}} 23:48, 7 April 2008 (BST) | ||
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| + | ==Loading== | ||
| + | Any idea what component is causing the delay loading the front page? --[[User:StevenJ|StevenJ]] 14:35, 4 May 2008 (BST) | ||
| + | : I don't see any delays? --{{:User:Delphi/Sig2}} 15:54, 4 May 2008 (BST) | ||
| + | :: Weird, for me all the THN pages load really fast, the wiki front page takes a good 4 or 5 seconds to start loading... --[[User:StevenJ|StevenJ]] 16:24, 4 May 2008 (BST) | ||
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| + | True Wiki always takes an age compared to other pages to load! Just thought it was my crap connection {{:User:Logan Ford/SigX}}20:00, 4 May 2008 (BST) | ||
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| + | Noted load lag a little on wiki however, actually often have more problems with TH.org than wiki, but I always thought that lag was due to admins working in background. --[[User:Dragonette|Dragonette]] 20:04, 4 May 2008 (BST) | ||
| + | :It is... The Neocronicle / VOTR news feed: check this page [[FrontPageNoNews]] (without it) for a speedier loading version. --[[User:StevenJ|StevenJ]] 20:38, 4 May 2008 (BST) | ||
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| + | Right after a little bit of testing myself, I agree it's the VOTR and Neoconicle feeds slowing things down. | ||
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| + | What I've done is extended a caching script I use to cache the newsticker to grab the RSS feeds onto the THN server, and I've changed the [[Main_Page/UN]] page to use these local feeds instead. | ||
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| + | The down side is these feeds will be upto 20 minutes out of date, but I think we can live with that! ;) | ||
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| + | Let me know how it works out. | ||
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| + | Dragonette - Could you add to my talk pages any slow pages you find please and I'll look into them. --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 13:01, 5 May 2008 (BST) | ||
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| + | ==Hacknet== | ||
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| + | * Can we add Hacknet under the gameplay section on front page please. This is a vast area of the game and is being "lost" in the wiki. I only found it under speacial page - all pages section. Thanks in advance -- [[User:Dragonette|Dragonette]] 11:15, 13 May 2008 (BST) | ||
| + | : * Dragonette when you add a new comment to a talk page as long as it is not on a subject already under discussion could you please add a title and put it at the bottom? I had to use the history function to find the comment! I think its a good idea to add Hacknet to the front page, especially as it is now quite a comprehensive guide on how to use hacknet and whats going on in there! Under what section do you think it should be added? {{:User:Delphi/Sig2}} 14:21, 13 May 2008 (BST) | ||
| + | :: I take it back, I really should check what people do before posting.... lol {{:User:Delphi/Sig2}} 14:23, 13 May 2008 (BST) | ||
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| + | Nice summary delphi ;) --[[User:Biglines|Biglines]] 20:40, 30 June 2008 (BST) | ||
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| + | ==Featured Media== | ||
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| + | I've bene working more on the flv video player stuff for the wiki (see apps page, for example) and just wondered... part of the problem with NC is people log in and wander around aimlessly, even when they're capped. | ||
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| + | How about a trial replacement of Featured Media to "Things to do..." where we show off screenies, or videos, of fun exciting and [[sex]]y things to do? Juggies, CRP, Apparition killing, El Farid or the Legacy? In doing this we could maybe prompt people to do stuff, rather than sit around talking crap - a problem I know we've all had :D --[[User:StevenJ|StevenJ]] 02:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
Latest revision as of 21:34, 19 July 2010
Early ramblings
- We really need some icons, Im going to ask Tratos nicely if he can come up with some, ideally I would like icons for the right of each box as well as some for the main images where the city coms are at the moment!
- Also what do we want in each box? Im thinking that currently what we have is ok, but we need a framework from which to work away from!
--Delphi 01:24, 7 November 2006 (GMT)
Ahh those logos from the NC fansite pack.
You may want to ask Tratos for a better NC-Wiki logo. That was a 5 minute job I did, as I was getting fed up with it asking to replace it.
--Brammers 09:28, 7 November 2006 (GMT)
Just seeing if this anonymous text is allowed - Bram
-NVM i dont read things before posting :) - Pantho 06:00am 08/11/06
News Box
Ok what I want to happen is for the news to be posted I think there should be a maximum of 5 news article in the box at anyone time, after that the news needs to be moved to the older news page. --Delphi 13:53, 10 November 2006 (GMT)
Images
Ok, i uploaded a faction logo for each faction, but i dont now how to put them inside a post... i can only Embed a link to the image... Also i dunno if there copyrighted, so ill let you show me how to insert a image. Also... im gonna go drink some more and at least act as if his 21st was a good party... Pantho 10 November 2006
Editing
- Is there some reason users cannot change the main page? I was wanting to add a link to a set of Hunting Guides.
--prpht9 12 November 2006
- Currently its because we dont want the front page being graffitied --Delphi 23:19, 12 November 2006 (GMT)
- Ok, can you add a Hunting Guides link under the Profession Guides? Thanks.
--prpht9 14 November 2006
- Done :) --Delphi 17:38, 14 November 2006 (GMT)
- First of all i love the wiki it just needs a better index for people to work with
- Can you add a link to Tradeskill guides, there are already a few tradeskill pages and in fansites this is a highly used area.
- Since we want this to be a useful reference posibly replacing old fansites maybe add some databaselike links and social based links.
- Database A place for people to link pages devoted to implants, weapons, armor, parts, junk. maybe a map secton as well.
- Social a place people can add advertizements for guilds, pages devoted to characters, pages devoted to RP, personal fansite links, Radios, ETC. Ive already run into a few Guild advertizements placed randomly around.
--KayBeeMG 19 March 2007
- We decided that to allow individual adervertising would lead to more vandalism and the like on the wiki. If you wish to discuss this further join the discussion at here.
- Ive added a new link to the new players for the tradeskill guides - we need to deal with the new players hub however as it now serves no purpose.
--Delphi 07:05, 20 March 2007 (GMT)
- I fixed your "newhub" issue by making it into a category list that should cover any subject the main page misses.
--KayBeeMG 04 April 2007
If you edit the MediaWiki:Sidebar page, you can change the Navigation layout. At the moment, IMHO it's too hard to find anything. I've added the all pages for the moment as an example. --Brammers 16:47, 15 November 2006 (GMT)
Sysop guide to the Main Page
- Here is a quick breakdown of how the main page works, and also where the transcribed pages are to be able to change the main page.
- Top Note
- TBH im sure most people have noticed the "top note" section - its at the very top to the right of the Main page tag
- Editing: edit this page - Note there is a maximum character limit
- Notice Bar
- This is the bar between the logo and the top of the content boxes
- Editing: edit this page
- Featured Image
- Top content box
- Editing: edit this page - Note eventually when we have decided on enough images we can make this work automatically.
- News
- Content Box - and internal section
- Editing: edit this page - Note news can link off this page - this is just transcluded onto the front page - watch the size of the section.
- THN/VoTR/Neocronicle News
- Patches
- Content Box - and internal page
- Editing: This has been written directly to the front page - edit in the usual way
- Help, Policy, and Guidelines
- Content box - and large internal section
- Editing: This has been written directly to the front page - edit in the usual way
- N.B. If you come across a page which is transcluded onto the front page which isnt protected to sysops/admins (if the tab at the top says unprotect then its protected!) then please hit the protected button and leave me a message on my talk so I can sort it.
Delphi (t) (c) 22:43, 2 April 2008 (BST)
Red link Purge
I for one am going to make an effort to get rid of the Red links here on the main page, All the red can mislead people to think there is minimal content. Not saying we need to build all the articles but at least start them off and tag as Expansion targets. What do you think?--Logan Ford 16:47, 7 April 2008 (BST)
- I think it's a great idea, I'd help out if I had the time. --Flib 17:27, 7 April 2008 (BST)
- Agreed fantastic idea - I was hoping the community would see the red links and it would give them a starting point, but..... Delphi (t) (c) 23:26, 7 April 2008 (BST)
Loading
Any idea what component is causing the delay loading the front page? --StevenJ 14:35, 4 May 2008 (BST)
- I don't see any delays? --δρ • Delphi (t) • (c) 15:54, 4 May 2008 (BST)
- Weird, for me all the THN pages load really fast, the wiki front page takes a good 4 or 5 seconds to start loading... --StevenJ 16:24, 4 May 2008 (BST)
True Wiki always takes an age compared to other pages to load! Just thought it was my crap connection [admin] Logan Ford • (talk)20:00, 4 May 2008 (BST)
Noted load lag a little on wiki however, actually often have more problems with TH.org than wiki, but I always thought that lag was due to admins working in background. --Dragonette 20:04, 4 May 2008 (BST)
- It is... The Neocronicle / VOTR news feed: check this page FrontPageNoNews (without it) for a speedier loading version. --StevenJ 20:38, 4 May 2008 (BST)
Right after a little bit of testing myself, I agree it's the VOTR and Neoconicle feeds slowing things down.
What I've done is extended a caching script I use to cache the newsticker to grab the RSS feeds onto the THN server, and I've changed the Main_Page/UN page to use these local feeds instead.
The down side is these feeds will be upto 20 minutes out of date, but I think we can live with that! ;)
Let me know how it works out.
Dragonette - Could you add to my talk pages any slow pages you find please and I'll look into them. --Brammers 13:01, 5 May 2008 (BST)
Hacknet
- Can we add Hacknet under the gameplay section on front page please. This is a vast area of the game and is being "lost" in the wiki. I only found it under speacial page - all pages section. Thanks in advance -- Dragonette 11:15, 13 May 2008 (BST)
- * Dragonette when you add a new comment to a talk page as long as it is not on a subject already under discussion could you please add a title and put it at the bottom? I had to use the history function to find the comment! I think its a good idea to add Hacknet to the front page, especially as it is now quite a comprehensive guide on how to use hacknet and whats going on in there! Under what section do you think it should be added? δρ • Delphi (t) • (c) 14:21, 13 May 2008 (BST)
Nice summary delphi ;) --Biglines 20:40, 30 June 2008 (BST)
Featured Media
I've bene working more on the flv video player stuff for the wiki (see apps page, for example) and just wondered... part of the problem with NC is people log in and wander around aimlessly, even when they're capped.
How about a trial replacement of Featured Media to "Things to do..." where we show off screenies, or videos, of fun exciting and sexy things to do? Juggies, CRP, Apparition killing, El Farid or the Legacy? In doing this we could maybe prompt people to do stuff, rather than sit around talking crap - a problem I know we've all had :D --StevenJ 02:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
