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== Recommended update to the deletion policy ==
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== Mapping project ==
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Hey delphi, what exactly do you have in mind as what it would be I would do as a "leader" of the mapping project? I mean, I don't have anything like the time you and brammers seem to spend on the wiki, the last 2 weeks were my holiday period, and while I have some more, my gf now has holiday too so I won't be able to do nearly as much. Maybe I reacted too quickly, and probably reacted strangely as most people would gladly take the "prestige" of being a "leader", but I've had too many kinds of these for too long to do things that I can't take seriously enough. So yet again, what would be expected of me? --[[User:Biglines|Biglines]] 12:03, 26 June 2008 (BST)
  
A dozen files where deleted this morning, nothing major since they was duplicates of another file and not in use, but they didn't get flagged as <nowiki>{{deletion}}</nowiki>. I didn't think it was possible to add the <nowiki>{{deletion}}</nowiki> to the image, but you can. See the Image:Fac_fa.jpg page and it shows up nicely in the [[:Category:Candidates_for_deletion]] page.
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Re the above ^^ --[[User:Biglines|Biglines]] 11:15, 27 June 2008 (BST)
  
However the deletion policy isn't that clear, in it only seems to cover "articles" where it needs to cover anything in all namespaces including images and files. (Except User and User talk, since thats upto the user.) --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 17:27, 5 May 2008 (BST)
 
  
==  Image Hotspots ==
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Hey, i'm greatfull that you made me and Biglines leaders of the mapping project, but just like Biglines I don;t think i'm right to be a leader of the mapping project. I've yet to contribute directly to the mapping effort at all and I don't even know how to add points on the map and stuff like that. Never the less, if you feel the project desperately needs a leader, then I will. However, like Biglines, i'm unsure what this means. --[[User:Reaction|Reaction]] 00:26, 28 June 2008 (BST)
  
Image hotspots, after you reminded me how it's done via html, I'm sure I can cook up an extension that will allow image hotspots. Been a while since I've done html hotpsots, so let me look into it and come up with a spec, and let me know of any crazy extra ideas you want added. --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 20:14, 5 May 2008 (BST)
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Okay, now that neocron is down for a week or so, I'm willing to put in the effort to start mapping, although it will mostly be from memory as it's very hard to check atm ;) pending a specific task description, I don't mind being leader, although I don't see what I can do as a non-admin in the "leading" department. --[[User:Biglines|Biglines]] 20:06, 30 June 2008 (BST)
  
* Ok thanks for the link - I should be able to work something with that. I'll look into what Jquery can provide as well, but keep it simple for now and just do the pure html extension, then add the Jquery stuff on top. --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 20:52, 5 May 2008 (BST)
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tbh I don't feel like being a figurehead, so nvm, I'll just keep contributing where I see fit, responsibilities keep stacking up, so cba with "figureheading" ;) no offense --[[User:Biglines|Biglines]] 00:25, 1 July 2008 (BST)
  
* Ok done a rough spec - [[User:Brammers/Wiki_Map_Plugin]] could you have a look at it when you get a spare moment? Thanks! --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 11:16, 6 May 2008 (BST)
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==LOM Pills==
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Hi, I've had a go at cleaning up the [[LOM_Pills]] page. Please can you check you are happy with it - I've removed the 'Image needed' and 'Formatting problem' tags that you added. --[[User:Heathen|Heathen]] 22:44, 9 July 2008 (BST)
  
* I think I've found a plugin that will do the work for that is very close to what I've speced out - http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap I can add the JQuery bits on top of that code. (And add the spot parameter) - you think this will be ideal as a starting point? --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 17:41, 12 May 2008 (BST)
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I've also corrected the spelling and added three images to the [[Regant]] page. Again just checking you are happy with it as you added the 'Formatting' tag. Don't worry, wont message you every time I update a page, just wanted to confirm the first couple were ok. --[[User:Heathen|Heathen]] 02:31, 10 July 2008 (BST)
  
== Rendering issues ==
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== User Message ==
  
Ok I've had a look at my talk page, and I think I've tracked it down to your current sig doing something to upset the parser. A little Demo (Excuse me for borrowing Logans and Your sig.)
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I prefer to do it manually, the personal touch :) rather than automate it, as i like to take an active role as Admin/Sysop --{{:User:Logan Ford/Sig2}} 13:39, 16 July 2008 (BST)
  
--{{:User:Logan Ford/Sig}}14:25, 6 May 2008 (BST)
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== NPC Box ==
  
--{{:User:Logan Ford/Sig}}14:25, 6 May 2008 (BST)
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Delphi, can you fix the NPCbox to allow 4 types of damage? The [[Malfunctioning Warbot]] for example does 4 types of damage yet only 3 can be recorded.  Thanks --{{:User:Logan Ford/Sig2}} 23:28, 20 July 2008 (BST)
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Thankyou for fixing it --{{:User:Logan Ford/Sig2}} 00:04, 21 July 2008 (BST)
  
--{{:User:Logan Ford/Sig}}14:25, 6 May 2008 (BST)
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== Sysop ==
  
--{{:User:Logan Ford/Sig}}14:25, 6 May 2008 (BST)
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"(diff) (hist) . . m Neocron Wiki:Administrators‎; 12:37 . . (+34) . . Delphi (Talk | contribs | block) (Forgot that Cmaster was sysop - added)"
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So did I, so no problem there.
  
--{{:User:Logan Ford/Sig}}14:25, 6 May 2008 (BST)
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== Templates ==
  
--{{:User:Delphi/Sig2}} 00:35, 10 April 2008 (BST)
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Delphi, could you possibly update [[Neocron Wiki:List of templates|this]] list with all the current templates? Such as NPCBox or Mission template etc. I find myself searching for templates with no obvious way of finding them easily and i find that list really useful.
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I had a couple of separate Q's about the Mission template aswell [[Talk:Area MC5 Mission |here]] where i changed the mission page over to the template. thanks --{{:User:Logan Ford/Sig2}} 16:02, 21 July 2008 (BST)
  
--{{:User:Delphi/Sig2}} 00:35, 10 April 2008 (BST)
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== Latex ==
  
--{{:User:Delphi/Sig2}} 00:35, 10 April 2008 (BST)
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Ok, I've not installed the Latex software on the server, thats going to take bit of work, and also I'm going to have to clear it with the rest of the of the server admins.
  
--{{:User:Delphi/Sig2}} 00:35, 10 April 2008 (BST)
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What I have done is found a public rendering latex server, so I've done a few small code changes to use that server. Give it a try, and see what you think... in the mean time...
  
--{{:User:Delphi/Sig2}} 00:35, 10 April 2008 (BST)
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<math>x=\frac{-b\pm\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}</math>
  
--{{:User:Delphi/Sig2}} 00:35, 10 April 2008 (BST)
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--[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 20:14, 1 August 2008 (BST)
  
--{{:User:Delphi/Sig2}} 00:35, 10 April 2008 (BST)
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== Disclaimer ==
  
: Right fixed the problem, it was yours and Logan's sigs. The wiki doesn't like parsing raw unicode characters, so I've changed them to the html codes. So &#x3b4;&#x3c1; became &amp;#x3b4;&amp;#x3c1 in the page; So it's all fixed, my talk page works, and so do the others! --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 21:01, 7 May 2008 (BST)
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Yeah, it might be wise to add a line somewhere that any input from me is for information only and not any official statement from KK. Tbh, I thought that readers would be interested more in the articles than who wrote/edited them. --[[User:Hoder|Hoder]] 16:40, 26 August 2008 (BST)
  
== Common.js ==
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Yeah I agree. Maybe time to use this page - [[Neocron_Wiki:General_disclaimer]] I'll come up with a suitable disclaimer and check with KK or Hoder to make sure they are happy with it. --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 17:18, 26 August 2008 (BST)
  
Ok, can I go through the common.js file, and take out the stuff that isn't being used, or not likely to be used. (Like most of it!) --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 18:54, 12 May 2008 (BST)
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== MediaWiki 1.13 ==
  
: Right Common.JS is cleaned down to it's bare min now. Did this a little earlier today. --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 20:38, 13 May 2008 (BST)
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New version of MediaWiki is out - see [http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/tags/REL1_13_0/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES] Time to upgrade I think. I'll put this on the test site over the weekend, if you are happy we should upgrade. --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 10:36, 5 September 2008 (BST)
  
== JQuery sexyness and Imagemap ==
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== Item DB tags in templates ==
  
Right, got some real basic and juicy stuff in. JQuery is now part of the NC-Wiki, and we have a page to allow us to write any custom JS functions that use JQuery [[MediaWiki:NCwiki.js]] The reason it is in that file is I can't get JQuery to load before common.js, and it's probably better in it's own file. I'll be adding the code to use the maphilight extension in there. At least this way says me having to fire up the Virtual PC and Eclipse for tweaks to the pages, and messing around with Subversion. I can also look at doing your "PM me" button on user pages as well. ;)
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I knew there was a good reason for wanting the 1.13 upgrade for the Wiki.
  
Also the Imagemap extension is installed, totally unaltered, although I am going to tweak it slight to work well with the JQuery maphilight plugin...which I'm going to do next once I've got a basic map working. --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 20:45, 13 May 2008 (BST)
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There is an alernative way to write Item DB tags - see
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[[User:Brammers/Dev04]] for some examples. I've tweaked the Reward template to use the alternative way, and it looks to be working now. --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 00:17, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
  
: Ok a little Demo - [[User:Brammers/Wiki_Map_Dev]] - Enjoy playing, feel free to edit the page, I'm off to watch SG1- The Ark of Truth, the DVD came today! --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 21:27, 13 May 2008 (BST)
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== Bots and Spammers  ==
  
:: Have a look at Test 2 on [[User:Brammers/Wiki_Map_Dev]] --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 01:43, 16 May 2008 (BST)
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Hey there. Right the plans to deal with the bots.
  
::: To answer you question, you can preview the chnages before saving, so you can see where the new map areas are and adjust if needed. Also got a few more options to add see [[User:Brammers/Wiki_Map_Plugin#Extra_options_to_add]] --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 11:09, 16 May 2008 (BST)
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So far, I've noticed they are registering, but not posting. The anti-bot signup seems to be working for most cases, but I suspect humans are involved here.
  
Ok I'm done! [[User:Brammers/Wiki_Map_Dev#World_Map_test]] The Map plugin is feature complete. :) --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 00:55, 17 May 2008 (BST)
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The long term solution is this.
  
== Request ==
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# Get the THN forums upgraded to phpBB3 which has some pretty awesome bot protection!
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# Clean up the inactive users here.
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# Migrate and use the THN forums as the authenication source for users. (Like we did with the Prophecy Network)
  
Delphi, you Template GURU. Could you possibly sort this page [[Wallpaper]] so it has a more friendly layout? Thanks {{:User:Logan Ford/SigX}}13:54, 14 May 2008 (BST)<br>
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In the mean time you can clean out user on special pages with '''Merge and delete users''' You have to put a user to merge it into. I'm going to setup a user called '''THN SpamMop''' for this purpose. --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 21:10, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
P.s. My sig still doesn't work :(  i know Bram said the issue was the space but can this be resolved or should i just keep on typing it manually? If i click [[Image:Button sig.png]] i get this,->>> --{{:User:Logan Ford/Sig2}} 13:58, 14 May 2008 (BST)
 
  
== Small template change ==
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Ok user setup, feel free to remove any suspect spambots. I've had a look at some users via edit user, and you can't really tell from the email if it's a spammer or not. Anyway since we are deleting users who have added nothing, I don't see a problem. --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 21:29, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
  
Hi, slight issue with the orig_auth template - See [[Talk:Tatical_Mercenary_CPU_Mission]] The original source is a PM, so it can't be linked. Can the source be made optional? --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 14:33, 16 May 2008 (BST)
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I draw your attention to - http://forum.techhaven.org/viewtopic.php?t=3455 Found a way to mass nuke the inactive accounts --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 14:53, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
  
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== Admin list ==
  
<!--- Do Not Remove --->
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* [[Neocron_Wiki:Administrators]]
[[Category:User:Delphi]]
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* [http://wiki.techhaven.org/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&group=sysop Sysop List]
  
== WOOT! ==
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I recommend removing the follow from the ops list for security reasons since they are not active or haven't been seen for a while.
  
OMG you fixed the Sig! Thanks, can;t tell you how much of a pain that's been lol having to type it all in each time hehh heh --{{:User:Logan Ford/Sig2}} 08:58, 21 May 2008 (BST) Norway? Hope all is well.
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* Jest
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* Marsbarz
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* Matan
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* Reaction
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* Solid Rock
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* StevenJ
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* Cmaster
  
== Places of interest ==
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That leaves you, me and Logan Ford.
  
Should be possible, and I can probably make it configurable as well for each map type as well.
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If they come back and want to work on the wiki again, we can give it back to them, since they are very good Sysops. --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 10:18, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
  
Also how do you make a category hidden? --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 13:58, 6 June 2008 (BST)
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== Rollover for mapping project  ==
  
== NFT template ==
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That job has been on my to-do for ages. The plugin had support issues for IE8/IE9 and maybe 10. I've updated it to the very latest, so can you try again with IE10? [[User:Brammers|Brammers]] ([[User talk:Brammers|talk]]) 12:55, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Hi there, I've been looking into the squashing issues reported by Biglines. Looks like there is a issue with the {{temp|nft}} template. Please see the [[Template:Nft2]] my [[User:Brammers/Sandbox]] and also the [[Talk:EpicGuide:Tangent_Technologies]] page.
 
 
 
I've not made the fix live, as I don't know what the full purpose of the {{temp|nft}} template is, so it's possible my solution may not be correct. --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 14:20, 10 June 2008 (BST)
 
 
 
== Downtime ==
 
 
 
Hi there, I've got no definate date in mine, as there are 2 bits of to work to complete still, like removing duplicate code in the Item DB, and also sorting out he caching layer.
 
 
 
If it goes well, I'm looking at doing the uppgrade on Monday in the evening. --[[User:Brammers|Brammers]] 11:47, 19 June 2008 (BST)
 

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Mapping project

Hey delphi, what exactly do you have in mind as what it would be I would do as a "leader" of the mapping project? I mean, I don't have anything like the time you and brammers seem to spend on the wiki, the last 2 weeks were my holiday period, and while I have some more, my gf now has holiday too so I won't be able to do nearly as much. Maybe I reacted too quickly, and probably reacted strangely as most people would gladly take the "prestige" of being a "leader", but I've had too many kinds of these for too long to do things that I can't take seriously enough. So yet again, what would be expected of me? --Biglines 12:03, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Re the above ^^ --Biglines 11:15, 27 June 2008 (BST)


Hey, i'm greatfull that you made me and Biglines leaders of the mapping project, but just like Biglines I don;t think i'm right to be a leader of the mapping project. I've yet to contribute directly to the mapping effort at all and I don't even know how to add points on the map and stuff like that. Never the less, if you feel the project desperately needs a leader, then I will. However, like Biglines, i'm unsure what this means. --Reaction 00:26, 28 June 2008 (BST)

Okay, now that neocron is down for a week or so, I'm willing to put in the effort to start mapping, although it will mostly be from memory as it's very hard to check atm ;) pending a specific task description, I don't mind being leader, although I don't see what I can do as a non-admin in the "leading" department. --Biglines 20:06, 30 June 2008 (BST)

tbh I don't feel like being a figurehead, so nvm, I'll just keep contributing where I see fit, responsibilities keep stacking up, so cba with "figureheading" ;) no offense --Biglines 00:25, 1 July 2008 (BST)

LOM Pills

Hi, I've had a go at cleaning up the LOM_Pills page. Please can you check you are happy with it - I've removed the 'Image needed' and 'Formatting problem' tags that you added. --Heathen 22:44, 9 July 2008 (BST)

I've also corrected the spelling and added three images to the Regant page. Again just checking you are happy with it as you added the 'Formatting' tag. Don't worry, wont message you every time I update a page, just wanted to confirm the first couple were ok. --Heathen 02:31, 10 July 2008 (BST)

User Message

I prefer to do it manually, the personal touch :) rather than automate it, as i like to take an active role as Admin/Sysop --[admin] Logan Ford • (talk) 13:39, 16 July 2008 (BST)

NPC Box

Delphi, can you fix the NPCbox to allow 4 types of damage? The Malfunctioning Warbot for example does 4 types of damage yet only 3 can be recorded. Thanks --[admin] Logan Ford • (talk) 23:28, 20 July 2008 (BST) Thankyou for fixing it --[admin] Logan Ford • (talk) 00:04, 21 July 2008 (BST)

Sysop

"(diff) (hist) . . m Neocron Wiki:Administrators‎; 12:37 . . (+34) . . Delphi (Talk | contribs | block) (Forgot that Cmaster was sysop - added)" So did I, so no problem there.

Templates

Delphi, could you possibly update this list with all the current templates? Such as NPCBox or Mission template etc. I find myself searching for templates with no obvious way of finding them easily and i find that list really useful. I had a couple of separate Q's about the Mission template aswell here where i changed the mission page over to the template. thanks --[admin] Logan Ford • (talk) 16:02, 21 July 2008 (BST)

Latex

Ok, I've not installed the Latex software on the server, thats going to take bit of work, and also I'm going to have to clear it with the rest of the of the server admins.

What I have done is found a public rendering latex server, so I've done a few small code changes to use that server. Give it a try, and see what you think... in the mean time...

<math>x=\frac{-b\pm\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}</math>

--Brammers 20:14, 1 August 2008 (BST)

Disclaimer

Yeah, it might be wise to add a line somewhere that any input from me is for information only and not any official statement from KK. Tbh, I thought that readers would be interested more in the articles than who wrote/edited them. --Hoder 16:40, 26 August 2008 (BST)

Yeah I agree. Maybe time to use this page - Neocron_Wiki:General_disclaimer I'll come up with a suitable disclaimer and check with KK or Hoder to make sure they are happy with it. --Brammers 17:18, 26 August 2008 (BST)

MediaWiki 1.13

New version of MediaWiki is out - see [1] Time to upgrade I think. I'll put this on the test site over the weekend, if you are happy we should upgrade. --Brammers 10:36, 5 September 2008 (BST)

Item DB tags in templates

I knew there was a good reason for wanting the 1.13 upgrade for the Wiki.

There is an alernative way to write Item DB tags - see User:Brammers/Dev04 for some examples. I've tweaked the Reward template to use the alternative way, and it looks to be working now. --Brammers 00:17, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Bots and Spammers

Hey there. Right the plans to deal with the bots.

So far, I've noticed they are registering, but not posting. The anti-bot signup seems to be working for most cases, but I suspect humans are involved here.

The long term solution is this.

  1. Get the THN forums upgraded to phpBB3 which has some pretty awesome bot protection!
  2. Clean up the inactive users here.
  3. Migrate and use the THN forums as the authenication source for users. (Like we did with the Prophecy Network)

In the mean time you can clean out user on special pages with Merge and delete users You have to put a user to merge it into. I'm going to setup a user called THN SpamMop for this purpose. --Brammers 21:10, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Ok user setup, feel free to remove any suspect spambots. I've had a look at some users via edit user, and you can't really tell from the email if it's a spammer or not. Anyway since we are deleting users who have added nothing, I don't see a problem. --Brammers 21:29, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

I draw your attention to - http://forum.techhaven.org/viewtopic.php?t=3455 Found a way to mass nuke the inactive accounts --Brammers 14:53, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Admin list

I recommend removing the follow from the ops list for security reasons since they are not active or haven't been seen for a while.

  • Jest
  • Marsbarz
  • Matan
  • Reaction
  • Solid Rock
  • StevenJ
  • Cmaster

That leaves you, me and Logan Ford.

If they come back and want to work on the wiki again, we can give it back to them, since they are very good Sysops. --Brammers 10:18, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Rollover for mapping project

That job has been on my to-do for ages. The plugin had support issues for IE8/IE9 and maybe 10. I've updated it to the very latest, so can you try again with IE10? Brammers (talk) 12:55, 15 May 2013 (UTC)